Plato himself poked subtle fun at the strangeness of what he was proposing, and some scholars are not sure just how seriously Plato took the proposals of the Republic himself.

柏拉图对自己的古怪提议也会小小地自嘲，于是一些学者并不确定柏拉图对《理想国》中提出的那些想法到底有多认真。

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One thing, of course, you note in the Republic, is that Plato is nowhere present.

当然，有一件事你会注意到，在《理想国》中并未有柏拉图踪迹。

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Like the Republic of Plato, it is doubtful that More's utopian vision could provide the basis for a realistic model of any society, let alone the transformation of an existing one.

同柏拉图的理想国构想一样，很难讲莫尔的乌托邦模式是否可以为任何一个现实中的社会提供一种模式，更别说有些社会还是在过渡时期。

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If you don't believe me about this, maybe you will consider the words of Jean-Jacques Rousseau, one of the great readers of Plato's Republic.

如果你们不信，也许可以考虑,鲁索的话语，他是最重要的柏拉图《理想国》读者之一。

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Plato's critique of Homeric poetry in the Republic is two-fold; it is both theological and political.

柏拉图在《理想国》中,批评荷马诗学有两层含意;,同时是有关神学与政治学。

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