'It's a shift in how people relate to these public figures,' says Ms. Chang. 'It is almost impossible for a two-dimensional icon to exist anymore.'

阿枪说，人们对这些公众人物产生认同的方式产生了变化，一个死板而没有立体感的偶像几乎已经不可能再存在了。

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In the kindergarten period, Chang Chun-yin said that we should let children know they are of how to;

在幼儿园时期，张银俊谈到，应该让孩子知道自己是怎么来的；

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"I grew up dreaming what it might be like to do this and how impossible it might be, " said Chang, who said he has idolized Kahan for years.

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