Conservative AM Angela Burns raised concerns over the Welsh Government's failure to reach environment targets as she queried what part of the merger's business had addressed the problem.
In fact, he goes as far to suggest that conferences like Pioneers should actually have an award for failure to create a new cultural environment illustrates in Europe that failure is okay and sometimes paves the way for success.
They feel affection for his boss, the Environment Secretary John Prescott, despite his failure to do much to unblock British transport's clogged arteries.