“这是开明的利己主义，而且也没有什么错，” Tiller公司，一家给大型企业的慈善捐赠方案提供建议的咨询公司的创始人罗布·邓森说。

“It’s enlightened self-interest, and there’s nothing wrong with that,” said Rob Densen, the founder of Tiller, a consulting firm that advises major corporations on their charitable giving programs.

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这类人的当中，有一部分自称为“怪圈制造者”，包括情景艺术家罗德·狄金森，约翰·伦德伯格；雕刻家加文特克，罗布·欧文等其它。

One group, now calling themselves the Circlemakers, includes situationist artists Rod Dickinson and John Lundberg, the sculptor Gavin Turk, Rob Irving and others.

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罗布其隆人当时的生活方式，是千百年来生活在那里的人们的最佳选择。

The people at Los Buchillones represent a way of living that capitalises on hundreds or even thousands of years of experience of living in the area.

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