陶艺与雕刻：参加陶艺课程，无论单次还是系列的，都能给你一面坐着交谈一面实践创造力的机会。

Ceramics, Pottery, or Sculpting: Going to a single class, or taking a series of ceramic classes can give you a chance to sit and talk while experimenting with your creativity.

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在与一个IT主管的交谈中，财务主管说他想要实现并自动化某些类型的财务管理实践。

In a conversation with an it executive, a financial executive said that he wanted to implement and automate certain types of financial management practices.

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同样，这似乎是一个来自于实践的技能，但它也需要冷静和“正念”—在交谈过程中充分投入。

Again, this seems to be a skill that only comes with practice, but it also requires calmness and 'mindfulness' — full engagement with and presence in the conversation.

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