Some of the poems in this book dramatize, and describe the stylistic changes I'm talking about.

这本书里的一些诗歌生动表现，描述了我所讲的这种风格变化。

耶鲁公开课 - 现代诗歌课程节选

So, these are stories, some of them for voice and tape, and he'd do readings where he'd go and he'd put a tape recorder on the podium and he'd stand next to the tape recorder as his voice read the story from the tape recorder. And it was all to dramatize the problematic relationship between voice, story and person.

所以，这些故事，有些事是声音，他到哪，他会在台上放一部录音机,以便录音，当他读录音机里的故事时,他会站在录音机旁,这戏剧化了声音，故事，和人之间的错综复杂的关系。

耶鲁公开课 - 1945年后的美国小说课程节选