Moss: Black Hat is like college and Defcon is the fraternity party.

莫斯：黑帽黑客是学院派，黑客大会是江湖派。

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We also have really great content. At Defcon, it's what I want to see.

在黑客大会我们也有很好的内容，这是我想看到的。

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Moss: Since the very first Defcon. Well, we had a state prosecutor come in and talk. In the audience was someone who was being prosecuted by her.

莫斯：从一开始就有司法部门的人参加，一位州检察官出席会议并发表演说，而听众中有她要起诉的人。

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Almost all of the complex exploits that make news at the Defcon hacker conference are scary.

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In a venue like DefCon this would be difficult, so I looked for another solution.

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"The traffic that comes to Defcon's public IP address takes a jog through New York, " says Kapela.

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