“I’m trying to tell people, ” says Graham, “people like Daniel Woods and Adam Ondra, who are just physically stronger than everyone else, chipped routes are truly, truly, truly not that hard.”

“我试图告诉人们，”Graham继续说道，“告诉像Daniel Woods 和Adam Ondra这样体力强于常人的攀岩者，那些凿过的线路，真的真的真的没那么难。”

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Lee, Danny, Daniel and, less frequently, yours truly, took turns making the case for our favorites, judiciously aware of the credential we were conveying.

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