It also means mastering the art of flattery: Jennifer Chatman, of the University of California, Berkeley, conducted experiments in which she tried to find a point at which flattery became ineffective.

同时也意味着掌握拍马的艺术：加州大学伯克利分校的詹妮弗·查特曼做了一些实验，她试图在试验中找到一个临界点，超过该点，拍马便无效。

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"It was so tight, it wasn't until the last foot that she could actually see me, " Chatman said.

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After rescuers cut a window-size opening in the concrete wall, Chatman climbed in to help apply the soapy substance.

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For her part, SEC Enforcement Director Linda Chatman Thomsen insisted today that the SEC continues to pursue the case aggressively.

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