Finally members looked at a motion to approve The Red Meat Industry (Wales) Measure 2010 (Amendment) Order 2011.

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Without a motion those who want changes - a referendum, the removal of the bishops, or whatever - will see their ideas debated as long as they've managed to produce an amendment that is in order.

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Conservative finance spokesman Paul Davies said the amendment was tabled "in order to be constructive and in order to hold this government to account on behalf of the people of Wales".

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