而在柏拉图提出的线寓 divided line
接下来是柏拉图提出的另一个论证。
对柏拉图的以上反驳同样运用了航船比喻,具有说服力,但最终仍没能解决柏拉图提出的挑战。
Turning the ship analogy against Plato in this way is a persuasive move, but it ultimately does not take care of Plato's challenge.
我现在说的都是各种猜想,但从另一个角度看, 一个古老的角度,这是由柏拉图提出的,他认为笑是一种巩固感情的形式,对抗共同的敌人。
These are sort of flailing away at different ideas but another way of doing--an older way is proposed by Plato, who viewed laughter as a form of bonding against a common enemy.
We continue to ask the same questions that were asked by Plato Machiavelli Hobbes and others.
我们持续提出相同的问题,就像柏拉图,马奇亚维利,贺伯斯,及其它人当时提出时一样。
Raise the objection, that's Plato raises the objection in the voice of Cebes but Socrates, on Plato's behalf, never answers the objection.
提出反对观点是柏拉图,替赛贝斯提出的,但是苏格拉底,从没回应过这个反对观点。
these are at least among the questions that Socrates or Plato, the author of the book, deliberately poses for us to consider.
就是这些问题,这些至少就是苏格拉底或柏拉图,本书作者,所特意提出让我们思考的问题。
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