从我们创办公司，我就是领导团队的一员，到现在已经16年了，我们知道人们总是希望领导层快些更换。
From when we started, and I've been part of the leadership team for the 16 years since then and usually, usually people want leadership teams get fired sooner.
卡伦说我不看重商业计划书为什么你要把宝贵的时间花在写一百页的商业计划书而不是创办公司。
Karen says, "I don't believe in business plans. Why would you spend your valuable time writing a 100 page business plan rather than just creating the company?"
我当年创办公司时比他还小。
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