Krishnamurti: Do not read them like a novel.
克：不要像读小说那样读他们。
Krishnamurti: Then, what are you waiting for?
克：那么，你还在等什么？
Krishnamurti: Does this really need explaining?
克：这真的需要解释吗？
Krishnamurti: Sirs, what do we mean by livelihood?
克：先生们，我们指的生计是什么？
Krishnamurti: in that perception is there ugliness?
克：在那种觉察中有丑陋吗？
Krishnamurti: How does the thinker come into being?
克：思考者是怎么形成的？
Krishnamurti: Yes. Knowledge only makes our mentality dull.
克：是的，知识只能使我们的心迟钝。
Krishnamurti: If it is misused, it must obviously be scrapped.
克：如果错误使用，显然也必须抛弃。
Later, I happened to see a book on Krishnamurti written by him.
后来，我偶然看到一本他写的关于克的书。
Krishnamurti: Sorry, I made you wait. I was doing some Hatha Yoga.
克里希纳穆提：抱歉，让你久等了。我刚才在做哈达瑜伽。
Krishnamurti: You are introducing the word "wicked", which I never used.
克：你引入了“邪恶的”这个词汇，我从未使用它。
Krishnamurti: Doesn't tradition mean carrying the past over to the present?
克：传统不正是意味着把过去背负到现在吗？
Krishnamurti: Your basic question is, isn't it, how are you to live in this world?
克：你基本的问题是，你该怎样活在这个世界上，不是吗？
Krishnamurti: you can be free of all conditioning and then you'll be free of sorrow.
克：把自己从所有局限中解脱，而后你就从痛苦里面自由了。
Krishnamurti: But we keep him there. Why don't we invite him into our particular caste?
克：但是我们把他限制在那儿。为什么我们不请他加入我们的特定等级？
Krishnamurti: Are you awakened only by circumstances, by challenges, by some disaster or joy?
克：你是不是只因为环境，因为挑战，因为某种灾难或者快乐才会醒来？
Krishnamurti: Some time ago, in 1972, I spent a full morning with That without leaving my bed.
克：一段时间以前，在1972年，我整个上午同“它”在一起，没有离开我的床。
Krishnamurti: is this as clear as the tree itself, or is it simply the clarity of description?
克：这点就像那树本身一样清楚呢，还是只是描述的很清楚？
Krishnamurti: Through identification. I put everything in a bag, consciously or unconsciously.
克：通过认同。我有意或无意地把一切装到一个袋子里。
Krishnamurti: That's right. But you are too sad. What a waste! Then, what are you waiting for?
克：就是这样。但你太忧伤了。多么可惜！那么现在，你还在等什么？
Krishnamurti: Why do we do this? Is it not because we want collective security, we want to feel safe?
克：我们为什么这么做？是不是因为我们想要获得集体的安全感，想要感到平安。
There is a gentleman I met at a Krishnamurti gathering whom I nicknamed "the Krishnamurti Evangelist".
我在一次克的聚会上遇见过一位先生，我戏称他为“克里希那穆提传教士”。
Krishnamurti: To live in this world sanely there must be a radical change of the mind and of the heart.
克：要清明健全地活在这个世界上，头脑和心灵必须要有彻底的转变。
The other day someone said that he was a "Krishnamurti-ite," whereas so-and-so belonged to another group.
一天，有个人说他是个“克里希那姆提”派，而某某人属于另一个群体。
Krishnamurti: you said you do not want to live in the confusion, the dishonesty and ugliness of this world.
克：你说你不想生活在这个困惑、不诚实和丑陋的世界中。
Krishnamurti: it is an idea; it is fiction. If you understand what is, what need is there for what should be?
克：那是个想法；是虚构的。如果你了解了现在如何，还有什么必要有应当如何？
Krishnamurti: If you see "what is" then you see the universe, and denying "what is" is the origin of conflict.
克：如果你看到了“现在如何”，那么你就看见了宇宙，否认“现在”如何，正是冲突的根源。
Krishnamurti: the past seems to be the only issue because it is the only thing that holds our minds and hearts.
克：过去似乎是唯一的问题，因为它是唯一掌控我们头脑和心灵的东西。
The reader gets very close to Krishnamurti in these pieces - almost, it seems at moments, into his very consciousness.
读者从这些篇章中可以非常近地接触到克里希那穆提，甚至有时可以进入他的意识。
Krishnamurti: I admit I'm different, but the transformation that has occurred in me can occur in any other human being.
克：我承认我有一些不同，但是发生在我身上的转化同样可以发生在任何人类身上。
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