我们要问问自己当苏格拉底,提出自己论点的时候,他脑中的是这三个中的哪一个?
We have to ask oursleves when Socrates puts his argument forward, which of these you have in mind?
苏格拉底的审判促使我们思考容忍的界限,哪种观点,如果有的话,是我们绝对无法容忍的?
The trial of Socrates asks us to think about the limits of toleration,? What views, if any, do we find simply intolerable?
这个非常苏格拉底式的方法不能是无法无天的天性的崩塌、耗尽、疾患和解体的一个信号?
Could not this very Socratic way be a sign of collapse, exhaustion, sickness, and the dissolution of the anarchic instinct?
这些论点的内容不同,这些是关于苏格拉底的,这些是关于死亡的,这些是关于道德和最大数量的最大快乐。
The contents of these arguments are very different, this is about Socrates and motality and this is about morality and the greatest happiness in the greatest number.
所以这部对话录的核心,是由一系列的讨论组成的,其中苏格拉底试图摆出他的原因,让人相信灵魂是不朽的。
And so the heart of the dialogue consists of a series of arguments in which Socrates attempts to lay out his reasons for believing in the immortality of the soul.
苏格拉底年轻时是哲学家阿基·劳斯的学生,从此毕生以哲学为业,却从不把他的哲学思想写下来。
In his youth, Socrates was a pupil of the philosopher Archelaus, and thereafter practised philosophy without ever writing any of it down.
他们早先挑战苏格拉底,展示出他们是潜在的哲学家。
Their early challenges to Socrates show them to be potential philosophers.
我们不应当步那些控告苏格拉底的人的后尘,而最好是仔细想想他“认识你自己”的忠告,对自己诚实,做我们自己,而不是旁边的什么人,知道什么是正确的。
Rather than follow the example of his accusers, we should perhaps honour Socrates's exhortation to "know ourselves", to be individually honest, to do what we, not the next man, knows to be right.
苏格拉底是巨大拼图的一部分,但他不是把西方推上显赫地位的唯一巨人。
Socrates was part of a huge pattern, not a unique giant who sent the West down a superior path.
这个问题,没有神奇的解答,但我认为最佳的答案是苏格拉底。
There is obviously no magic solution to this question but the best answer I know of is Socrates.
如果苏格拉底的观点是正确的,那么假定一个好的国家至少应该创造国民能够最好地追求幸福的环境不也是合理的吗?
If Socrates was right, isn't it reasonable to assume that a decent nation will, at minimum, create the conditions in which its citizens can best pursue happiness?
遗憾的是,对于许多人来说,苏格拉底成为了一个崇高而遥远的形象。
So it seems a shame that, for many, Socrates has become a remote, lofty kind of a figure.
我认为,苏格拉底是雅典失望情绪的替罪羊。
Socrates was, I think, a scapegoat for Athens's disappointment.
第一部分是句子的主语,“苏格拉底”;第二部分是一个归属给那个主语的性质,“是聪明的”。
First, the subject of the sentence, 'Socrates', and second a property ascribed to the subject, namely' being wise '.
人们普遍认为,苏格拉底是西方文明中第一个深刻的思想家,但约翰逊把其看成是一个反知识分子的人。
In the popular imagination, Socrates may be the first deep thinker in Western civilization, but in Mr. Johnson's view he was also an anti-intellectual.
苏格拉底说:各种学问,最根本的目的,是要解决“人怎样活着”的问题;
Socrates once said that the fundamental goal of every knowledge is to solve the problem of “ how human beings live".
苏格拉底的名言“未经审视的生活是豪无价值的”,从他被审判时开始,明显开始动摇了。
Socrates's famous aphorism "the unexamined life is not worth living" was, by the time of his trial, clearly beginning to jar.
所以即使我们认同苏格拉底,指的无形是不能被感知,我们仍旧站在西米·亚斯这边,第四点是不正确的。
So even if we grant that what Socrates meant by invisible was can not be observed, we still have to say with Simmias, you know, fourth is just not true.
而这些是得出灵魂不朽的,重要前提,因为苏格拉底接下来邀请我们,思考灵魂的问题。
And that's the crucial premise or some conclusion for the immortaility of the soul because then Socrates invites us to think about the soul.
苏格拉底的学生柏拉图是西方哲学史上另一个非常重要的人物。
One of his students, Plato, would go on to become another major figure in the history of Western philosophy.
我会说,“柏拉图认为”或者“苏格拉底认为”,因为就这门课的目的而言两种说法是等效的。
I'll say, "Plato holds" or "Socrates argues," because for our purposes it's all the same.
但这带回到那个问题,到底苏格拉底给克里托,拒绝越狱的理由,他以雅典城邦法律立场,所说的理由,是苏格拉底真正的理由吗?
But it gets back to the question, are the reasons Socrates gives Crito for refusing to escape, the reasons he puts in the mouth of the laws of the city of Athens,? Are those Socrates' true reasons?
而另一个,你们一定会想要讨论的问题是,何谓经苏格拉底纯化过的,音乐与诗学形式?
And there's another question which you would no doubt be concerned to discuss, namely what would such Socratically purified? Music and poetry look like?
所以有时候我们会这样想,看,这里有一个论证,是由苏格拉底提出的。
And so sometimes we'll find ourselves thinking, "You know, there's an argument here that Socrates is putting forward."
苏格拉底倒底想干吗,那个隐喻,那个核心隐喻是啥,它在本书中有啥功用?
What is Socrates trying to do here, and what is that metaphor,? That central metaphor,? What function does it serve within the work?
这些圣人极力探寻的人生答案跟苏格拉底的大体是一样的我能找到真实吗?
All these sages wrestled with much the same questions as Socrates Can I know reality?
苏格拉底的回答是,当然,见第,II,与,III,册中,对诗学与艺术的描述。
And Socrates' answer is, of course, the predation of poetry and the arts in Books II and III.
苏格拉底的回答是,当然,见第,II,与,III,册中,对诗学与艺术的描述。
And Socrates' answer is, of course, the predation of poetry and the arts in Books II and III.
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