从较年轻时，可称之为,亚里斯多芬尼斯式的苏格拉底,调查上天下地的事物,到稍后转变成所谓柏拉图式的苏格拉底。
The move from the younger we could call him Aristophanic Socrates the Socrates who again investigates the things aloft and under the earth to the later what we could call platonic Socrates.
我们认识苏格拉底最初都是源于其他作家的记录，来自他的学生，如柏拉图，来自历史学家色诺芬，还有戏剧《亚里斯多芬》。
We know Socrates primarily from the accounts of other writers: from his student, Plato, from Xenophon, the historian, as well as from the plays of Aristophanes.
他提及一名喜剧诗人，没错，一名喜剧诗人，且是毫不含糊的，提及喜剧作家亚里斯·多芬尼斯，我也有把他的名字写在黑板上。
Reference he makes to a comic poet yes a comic poet an unequivocal reference to the playwright Aristophanes whose name I have put up on the board.
亚里斯·多芬尼斯的剧作有时，也会包含在，你们所读的特定版本书中，像这本，它内含亚里斯·多芬尼斯的《云》，还有《苏格拉底自辩篇》和《克里托篇》。
Aristophanes' play sometimes is even included in certain editions of the book you're reading like this one it has the edition of Aristophanes' Clouds in it along with the Apology and Crito.
他对诗人的挑战，某个层面来说，是对反对他的人所产生之愤恨的基础，这是亚里斯·多芬尼斯及他所谓的，前代原告施加于他的。
His challenge to the poets is in a way the basis for the resentment that is built up against him in that Aristophanes and what he calls the earlier accusers have brought to bear.
亚里斯·多芬尼斯，这位喜剧诗人创造的偏见为何呢？
What was that prejudice that Aristophanes? This comic poet had created?
云剧写于公元前423年3，当时苏格拉底约45岁，亚里斯·多芬尼斯时的苏格拉底，基本上就是我们所谓的自然哲学家。
The Clouds was written in 423 when Socrates was in his mid-forties and the Aristophanic Socrates is essentially what we call a natural philosopher.
但柏拉图的苏格拉底必然不同于，亚里斯·多芬尼斯对苏格拉底的描述，后者将他描写成是，让虚弱申辩转强的诡辩家。
But Plato's Socrates is necessarily poles apart from Aristophanes' Socrates depiction of him as a sort of sophist who makes the weaker argument the stronger.
亚里斯·多芬尼斯是原创或说，首创对苏格拉底持偏见态度的剧作家。
Aristophanes is the one who created the original or the initial prejudice against Socrates.
亚里斯·多芬尼斯是原创或说，首创对苏格拉底持偏见态度的剧作家。
Aristophanes is the one who created the original or the initial prejudice against Socrates.
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