In any case, borrowers need a "plan for paying it back," Ward says.
在任何情况下，借贷人都需要“计划如何还款。”Ward说。
Actually, says Rob Ward, this is an essential part of the brand.
实际上，罗布·沃德说，这些是卡卡圈坊的本质。
"As soon as you make an excuse," says Ward, "the other person shuts down."
沃德说：“你一找借口，对方就什么也听不进去了。”
"As soon as you make an excuse," says Ward, "the other person shuts down."
沃德说：“你一找借口，对方就什么也听不进去了。”
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