But the Hobbesian point, the paradox being that the Hobbesian bourgeois cannot entirely dispense with the barbarian, even in its own midst.
这就是霍布斯的悖论,他的资产阶级不可能完全免于野蛮人的挑战,甚至这挑战就来自于资产阶级的内部。
It seemed to be the regime that divided France least, what Gambetta called the nouvelles couches,or the new social strata, the new social strata,the middle classes,the petty bourgeois.
这看似是最不会导致法国分裂的政体,甘必大称它为新阶层,或新的社会阶层,中产阶级,小资产阶级
That's a most ludicrous word, really, in contemporary social science or orthodox Marxist, where you just had to say, "Well, eventually the proletariat will rise up, because the bourgeoisie did this before."
在当代社会学领域或者正统马克思主义里,这是一个非常愚蠢的做法,就好像你只用说,"最终无产阶级会起义,是因为以前资产阶级就这么干过"
And which, in the case of England, the civil war was largely fought, to a great extent anyway, trying to prevent the English monarchy from taking on characteristics of those emerging absolute states on the continent.
其中之一是英国,[1648年的英国内战称之为 "英国资产阶级革命"],这在很大程度上,是为了阻止英国的君主制,转变为欧洲大陆上新兴的绝对主义
And these people--this is kind of boring-- but these people were in government between 1830 and 1848, and King Louis-Philippe, who was chased from the throne in February of 1848, was seen as progressive, he was seen as the bourgeois monarch but he was perfectly noble.
这些人有点乏味,他们在1830年到1848年执政,国王是路易·菲利普,他在1848年二月被王室追捕,他被视为进取者,被视为资产阶级的君主,但他完全是个贵族
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