It's like you want passion for technology but you need passion for customers, and you got to get kind of the Yin and Yang.

就像你想要对技术的热情,但是却需要对消费者的热情，这又有点像阴阳之间的抉择。

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Passion for technology and customer you always dealing with even from the time you're a tiny startup.

对技术和消费者的热情是,从创业期就需要衡量的问题。

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And then from a welfare point of view, from a policy point of view, we're interested about whether this is good for consumers or good for producers or what.

其次,从政治上的福利观点来看,我们还需要研究,这对消费者有利还是对生产者有利

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