The discussion was over using things like poker chips for reinforcement and the point is exactly right.

这是关于应用筹码等物来强化行为的问题,她说的十分正确。

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But in the real world when dealing with humans, but even when dealing with animals, we don't actually always use primary reinforcers or negative reinforcers.

但当我们在现实中训练人类，甚至是训练动物时，我们实际上并不总是用到初级强化物,或是负强化物。

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Since the connection with the poker chips is established through classical conditioning, sooner or later by that logic the poker chips would lose their power to serve as reinforcers.

因为与扑克筹码有关的联结,是通过经典条件作用建立的，所以按照这种逻辑,扑克筹码迟早会失去强化物的作用。

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And basically, there are primary reinforcers.

最根本的强化物是初级强化物。

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