But the first person who had a real discussion had a real meeting with the president in our construct, was the Chief of Staff.

但第一个,和他有真正谈话,和总统真正开会的,在我们的习惯里，是办公室主任。

普林斯顿公开课 - 国际座谈会课程节选

Now, in the course of this discussion, Socrates and his disciples argue about not so much the existence of the soul, but the question really is the immortality of the soul.

在这段谈话中,苏格拉底和他的学生们,讨论的主要不是灵魂存在的问题,而是灵魂不朽的问题

耶鲁公开课 - 死亡课程节选

Well, there're different interpretations: One, Welles vehemently rejects in the book called This is Orson Welles which is his interviews with Bogdanovich, that I think I told you I read over and over. I loved it so much.

当然，有不同的解释：,一，威尔斯在一本叫做,《这就是奥森·威尔斯》，也就是,他和博格达诺维奇的谈话中，反对这种观点,我看了很多遍，我也很喜欢。

麻省理工公开课 - 电影哲学课程节选