And when somebody else then attacks them, say, "Look, I think that what John was saying was a good point and here's how I think he should have defended his position," or what have you.

并且当其他人攻击他们时，你说听着我觉得约翰说的是个好点子,和这是我认为他应该怎样维护自己的立场“,或者你有什么。

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Sublimation is you might have a lot of energy, maybe sexual energy or aggressive energy, but instead of turning it to a sexual or aggressive target what you do is you focus it in some other way.

升华是你有很多的能量，可能是性能量，也可能是攻击能量，但你并未将它们指向性目标或攻击目标,而是将这些能量以其他方式进行了释放。

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