But he says it is also very pleasant working with clay.

VOA: special.2009.09.09

He's much more down to earth. He forms the human like a potter working with clay.

这个上帝更现实，他创造人类,就像陶瓷匠制瓷一样。

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She started out more than twenty years ago working with polymer clay.

VOA: special.2009.05.18