And that argument, as John Major says, is fraught with problems.
VOA: standard.2010.01.02
Now I'll pick up with this next Tuesday; it's a perfect transition into the pro-slavery argument and southern worldview. Thank you.
下星期二我会来听听你们的想法,我想它是亲奴制的发展和,南方世界观形成的重要因素,谢谢
You know, there's been a lot of argument with the underground, for example.
比如,关于地铁的问题一直有很多争议。
"The strident criticism, I think,is not effective, usually does not work.You know, when you shout at your wife in an argument it usually does not get her to agree with you.
VOA: standard.2009.11.17
Now, let's say, I'm not really much concerned with whether this was an argument that Plato thought worked or not.
我其实并不太关心,柏拉图本人认为,这个论证是否说得通
I am confident that we are right to be in Afghanistan, that we have the strongest possible plan and we have the resources needed to do the job" But only about half the British public agrees with that argument.
VOA: standard.2009.07.13
Now, how many agree with that argument, agree with the libertarian argument that redistribution for the sake of trying to help the poor is wrong?
有多少人同意自由主义者的这一驳论,认为为了帮助穷人,进行财富再分配不对?
It's a very interesting argument and really does affect our relationship with food.
这是非常有趣的论点,确实影响了我们对食物的看法
The person with the best argument let the best argument prevail.
仅给最佳的辩论者,让最优的辩论胜出。
So there's two things wrong with the argument.
这是这个说法的第二个漏洞
So this is Levi-Strauss' argument, and Derrida is interested in it because he recognizes its affinity with his own hesitation in talking about events, births, emergence and so on.
这就是列维,施特劳斯的论点,而德里达对此感兴趣是因为他意识到它与自己的犹豫类同,他在谈论语言的发展,诞生和危机等东西时的犹豫。
For example, you're maybe having an argument with your wife.
例如,你正在和太太争吵。
The one we started with-- you need the soul to explain the animation of the body-- that argument, I think, doesn't work.
我们一开始提到的那个观点,你需要灵魂来解释肉体的生命力,我想那个论点并不成立
So what I'm inclined to think with regard to this particular strand or this particular version of the argument is, the jury's still out.
所以我倾向于,认为,对于这个特殊的困境,或说成是,对这个特定版本的,论证,还无法下定论
The libertarian's argument against redistribution begins with this fundamental idea that we own ourselves.
自由主义者反对再分配的论断,始于人人自主这一基本理念。
Well, there's a problem with the argument from recycling, and it's this.
然而循环观点,有一个问题,就是说
that expresses the will of the majority, the will of the greater number be rendered compatible with the needs of philosophy and the claims to respect ? only reason and a better argument?
众人意志的民主,及大多数人的意志,能够兼容,哲学需求,及尊重理性,及进阶辩论的诉求吗?
Armed with your pet diagnosis of where the argument goes wrong there, you've got to ask, "Does it also go wrong in the mind and body case?"
当你找到了一种判断这个论证,是否错误的方法时,你肯定会问,在心灵与身体的问题上,是不是也出了同样的错误
But I want to say, on Plato's behalf, no, it's not, on behalf of the argument, Socrates should never have concluded the argument with this odd qualifying phrase that the soul is indestructible or nearly so.
但是我想代表柏拉图说,不,是代表这个论证,苏格拉底绝不该,在这个结论里,加上这个奇怪的量的修饰词,灵魂几乎是不可摧毁的。
What's wrong with that argument?
这个说法有什么问题
How can we turn it into an argument with premises and conclusions?
我们怎样才能,把一个论证变得具有前提和结论呢
It might be improved by presenting other views better and more objectively, since Kagan always ended a particular line of reasoning by defeating the argument if he didn't agree with it.
讲课效果会提升如果更好的,并更客观的展示其他观点,因为卡刚通常通过击败一个论点,来结束特定的推理,如果他不同意它。
That's the argument we'll start with next time.
这将作为我们下次课讨论的论点
I'd be happy to discuss with you, outside class, at greater length my favorite theories as to where the argument goes wrong and why I think it goes wrong in Descartes' case as well.
就笛卡尔的论证到底错在哪儿的问题,我很愿意在课外,和你们详细谈谈,我最信服的理论,以及我个人的看法
But Socrates ultimately wants to replace military combat with a new kind of you might call it verbal facility verbal combat in which again the person with the best argument is declared to be victorious.
但苏格拉底最终想要,取代军事战斗的是一种新型的,言辞技能,言辞战斗,最佳辩论者,将被宣布为优胜者。
Socrates wins the argument in Book I with a kind of, you might even say, sleight of hand.
苏格拉底赢得了第一册的辩论,你可能会说,这个作法是花招。
Plato's next argument then tries to deal directly with this worry, and it's quite an interesting argument.
柏拉图下一个论证试图,直接应对这种担心,而且这个论证很有意思。
And how many disagree with that argument?
有多少人不同意这个观点?
My argument must be wrong because it goes against the lesson of the class and the lessons of the class are gospel right, they're not wrong ever, so what's wrong with that argument? Yes, Ale Well because you have to be able to agree, you have to be able to speak to them but we aren't allowed to show our partners what we wrote.
这个说法肯定有问题,因为这和我们的结论刚好背道而驰,结论是绝对正确的,结论没错,那这个说法错在哪,艾尔,因为你必须要能够达成一致,你需要和他们谈判,但是我们不允许同伴看到我的选择
It could be that Plato's deliberately putting mistakes in earlier arguments so as to encourage you to think for yourself, "Oh, this is--here's a problem with this argument.
有可能是柏拉图有意的,在早期理论中犯下一些错误,从而鼓励你们去独立思考,这个论点有问题
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