"What I do want to see happen is that they get legalized, even if they have to pay back taxes and that they also have to pay penalty fees."

VOA: standard.2010.04.12

If I can't, I want to knock him back, because what I really need to do is to get him out of the way.

如果杀不了,我就要把他击退,因为我真正的目的是把他从这条线路上推开

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