And I was trying to make a final call on the summer job and Bill called and said "Hey look Steve. Geez, how are you doing? Gosh, things get complicated here we need a business person. What about you?"

那时我正试图把暑假打工的事,一锤定音，比尔打电话给我，说,“嘿史蒂夫，最近怎么样？,天呐我们这儿越来越复杂了，需要个,搞商的人，你来怎么样？“

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It's natural to talk that way, but if we want belief in the soul to help us hold out the possibility at least that there might be life after death, then I think we need to actually say that strictly speaking, it's not that a person is a soul plus a body.

这说起来很轻松,如果我们想要寄托于,相信灵魂的存在,而让死后能够继续活着有据可依,那么我们需要一个严格的说法,不是说一个人是灵魂加肉体

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