"because the virus can spread rapidly, but what we're seeing so far is a pretty stable position as far as the virus is concerned, it's producing relatively mild illness in most people, but in a small proportion it's causing serious problems and we have in place the plans in our health care system to deal with those problems,".

VOA: standard.2009.07.31

We have serious problems judging people this way.

但如果我们这样来评判人，那就大有问题了。

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What he's saying here is the following: "What we have learned over fifty years is that the disease model does not move us closer to the prevention of these serious problems.

他是这么说的：,“五十多年的经验告诉我们，疾病模型,不能让我们更有力地预防,这些严重问题。

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