"The most important part of this trip are the relationships that we have built, the commitments that we have discussed, the problems that we have honestly explored,"

VOA: standard.2009.08.16

One of the things that we discussed was this type of imagery here where you have vertically these pillars, if you will, or we could even call--the more I sort of looked at this--sort of call them tree trunks almost.

我们讨论的问题之一是这里的这种意象，这些垂直的柱子，如果你愿意的话，我们可以称之为，我越看越觉得称之为树干比较好。

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