And you see this, going back to Socrates, there's a dialogue, the Gorgias, in which one of Socrates' friends, Callicles, tries to talk him out of philosophizing.

追溯到苏格拉底时代，就有这样一段对话，在《高尔吉亚篇》中，苏格拉底的一位朋友，卡里克利斯，试图说服苏格拉底放弃哲学思考。

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