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On the other hand, this isn't really, I mean the intuition you're giving me is kind of a Prisoner's Dilemma intuition.
但是你说的东西跑题了,我的意思是,你给出的原因,是一种囚徒困境
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This is sort of a classic example of what economists and other people like them call the prisoner's dilemma.
这是一个经典范例,经济学家和像他一样的哲学家,称之为囚徒困境。
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Price competition two firms competing with one another in prices can have a Prisoners' Dilemma aspect about it.
价格竞争,两家互相打价格战的企业,可能会陷入囚徒困境
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I think that's gut-level, hard-wired, evolved to solve prisoner's dilemmas.
这种感觉是根深蒂固的，经过进化而来的，帮我们解决囚徒困境的。
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Now, if you have never seen that Prisoner's Dilemma, you can see it pretty much every night on a show called Law & Order.
如果你之前没听说过囚徒困境,回去看看每天晚上演的"法制"
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So there are lots of Prisoner's Dilemmas out there, anyone got any other examples? Other examples?
生活中不乏囚徒困境的案例,还有别的案例吗
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Again, still in the interest of recapping, this particular game is called the Prisoners' Dilemma.
其次,好心提醒一下大家,这个博弈被称为囚徒困境
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Communication per se will not get you out of a Prisoners' Dilemma.
沟通本身并不能化解囚徒困境
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Again, leaving aside the science, about which I'm sure some of you know more than me here, the issue of carbon emissions is a Prisoners' Dilemma.
抛开科学层面来说,我相信在座的一些同学比我知道的还多,碳排放问题也是个囚徒困境
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Another example of this would be global warming and carbon emissions.
下一个囚徒困境的案例,是全球变暖和碳排量问题
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So what remedies do we see in society for Prisoner's Dilemmas?
在现实中我们怎么化解囚徒困境
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One is this is very different from the Prisoner's Dilemma.
第一,协和谬误与囚徒困境不一样
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There are lots of examples of Prisoner's Dilemmas out there.
囚徒困境的案例有很多
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There's a Prisoners' Dilemma aspect to this too.
这其中也会导致囚徒困境
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It's written there, the Prisoners' Dilemma.
我写在那里了,囚徒困境
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And these are things like anger at cheaters, gratitude toward sharers, the sort of things you'd expect to come out in a prisoner's dilemma, feelings that some things are right and some things are wrong.
这些直觉包括,对欺骗者感到愤怒，对分享者感到感激，那些你预计会出现在,囚徒困境中的直觉，判断对错的感觉。
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Hobbes' members of a state of nature seem to be in a classic prisoner's dilemma problem.
霍布斯自然状态的命题,看起来像一个经典的囚徒困境。
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Most of you saw it in 115, why is it called the Prisoner's Dilemma?
你们都学过经济学115,为什么称为囚徒困境
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Now, it turns out that this game, this Prisoner's Dilemma, with the Alpha's and Beta's, or essentially the same game, has been played many, many, many times in experiments.
实际上,囚徒困境这个博弈,比如选择α和β,或者类似的博弈,在现实中进行过很多次实验
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How many of you have heard of the Prisoner's Dilemma before?
有人之前听过囚徒困境吗
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But now work it out: it's a Prisoner's Dilemma.
现在想明白了吧,这就是囚徒困境
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So, for example, if you have a joint project that you're working on, perhaps it's a homework assignment, or perhaps it's a video project like these guys, that can turn into a Prisoners' Dilemma.
比如说你和别人要进行一个合作项目,可能是家庭作业,或者像他们正在进行的视频采集项目,它能变成一个囚徒困境
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This is called Prisoner's Dilemma.
就是囚徒困境
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So we learned the very first time that in the Prisoner's Dilemma communication per se won't help, but in the coordination problem, which could be just as serious socially as a Prisoner's Dilemma, in a coordination problem it may well help.
在第一讲里我们就学到了,在囚徒困境中沟通不起作用,但是在和囚徒困境具有,同样重要社会意义的协和谬误中,交流却能够起到作用
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So we'll come back and talk about more of these things as the course goes on, but let's just come back to the two we forgot there: so the collusion case and the case back in Law & Order with the prisoners in the cell.
随着课程的深入,我们会继续讨论更多类似的问题,但现在我们先回到之前的两个案例,串通和法制的案例,即囚徒困境
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