Similarly, though, anybody who says, you should never think about the facts of mortality and the nature of death-- I think that's misguided as well.

但是同样地，任何人说，你应该永远不要想那些人必有一死,和死亡的事实-,我认为那也是有误导的。

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I think you should never imagine in these real old poleis that got the thing started, that somebody said let's have a polis.

我想你一定难以想象这些城邦,在刚开始建立的时候,是某个人拍脑袋的想法

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