So even if we grant that what Socrates meant by invisible was can not be observed, we still have to say with Simmias , you know, fourth is just not true.
所以即使我们认同苏格拉底,指的无形是不能被感知,我们仍旧站在西米亚斯这边,第四点是不正确的。
And I think it was made pretty famous by the movie quite a lot, a short time ago with Hugh Grant.
我觉得很大程度上是电影让它出名了,前段时间的休•格兰特演的电影。
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