Is the just city, perhaps, that Socrates will later consider, ? a combination of these two of both force and persuasion?
或许苏格拉底,稍后所提的正义之城,即是这两者的合一,武力与说服力?
The fact that they're put on the same plane here suggests that both perhaps are either truths or both perhaps are myths.
他们被放在同一个地方的事实说明,这两个中或许有一个是真理,或者两个都是神话。
Just wondering could you say a little bit more about that and how this idea of humility before something outside of yourself lends to both the artistic endeavor and the spiritual endeavor, in your own life and in perhaps the lives of some of our viewers.
您能否谈一下这一点,讲一下这种面对超我之物,的谦卑如何体现在艺术创造,和精神生活中的,如何体现在您的生活,以及我们一些观众朋友生活中的?
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