They're not stories about pious people whose actions are always exemplary and whose lives should be models for our own, despite what Sunday School curricula will often turn them into.

不是讲那些应该拿来做榜样的,圣人的典范故事,只有主日学校会把他们讲成那样。

耶鲁公开课 - 旧约导论课程节选

They may be not on the national radar For me, in my own life, when I think of real heroes or even role models, or well-known people in the Patheon of struggle.

有哪些是你觉得人们需要了解的？,对于我来说，当我想到真正的英雄或者榜样时，或者先贤祠中的名人。

普林斯顿公开课 - 人性课程节选

And that is when I had models like Dorothy Day and I reconnected with my own tradition through verses like Abus and Khalifah, I felt a sense of wholeness.

那时，我以Dorothy，Day等人为榜样,并且重新将我的传统相连,这是通过像阿布和哈里发等这类诗文实现的，我有种完整之感。

普林斯顿公开课 - 人性课程节选