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And I think this is perhaps the whole one area in which we treat animals better than we treat humans.
只有在这一点上，我们对待动物的方式,要比对待人的方式人道得多。
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And I've been to the Natural History Museum, so the history of animals,
我还去过自然历史博物馆，动物历史展区，
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I don't mean that the animals are identical me, but their reality is just as pure and indefeasible as my reality.
我并不是说动物和我一样，但它们的现实和我的现实,是一样纯粹，一样不可废弃的。
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And then I started to say, I'm studying ethics, what are the ethics have we treat the animals.
我对自己说，我是学伦理学的，我们对待动物的时候有什么伦理道德呢？
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I want to begin next class with this question, the question of animals.
我想在下节课开始的时候讲讲这个问题,这个关于动物的问题
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Otherwise you could have a squirrel host-- I'm using squirrels, because I think that's funnier than other animals to think of— but it could be any potential host, right?
否则松鼠就会变成宿主,我拿松鼠举例,是因为我觉得它比别的动物更有趣,但潜在宿主可以是任何动物,对吧
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Aristotle, and his politics, made the point neatly, and I quote him, "As a man," - I'm sorry, "As man is the best of the animals when perfected, so he is the worst when separated from law and justice.
亚里士多德和他的政治学,很巧妙地说明了这点,我引用他的话来说,"作为一个",不好意思,"人类由于至趋完善而成为最优良的动物,但一旦脱离法律和正义,他就堕落为最恶劣的动物
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I really like to study animals and study nature.
我真的很喜欢研究动物和研究自然。
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And then also I absolutely love animals,
再者我很爱动物，
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And I became appalled at learning what we do to animals.
了解到我们对待动物的方式，我感到十分震惊。
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This is the slide that I left on last time and the idea here was to use plasmids, which I talked about last Thursday, to introduce genes into animals.
这是我上节课没讲完的一张幻灯片,这里的思路是利用,上周四所讲过的质粒,以将基因导入动物体内
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And the more I went into it, the more I thought as I see something seriously wrong here with the way we think about animals and the way we treat animals.
于是，随着研究的深入，我所思考的也越来越多,我发现我们对于动物的认识,我们对待动物的方式,存在着严重的问题。
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I just happened, while I was a graduate student at Oxford University, to meet somebody who is vegetarian and start talking to him about the way we treat animals which I really didn't know much about.
那时我还在牛津攻读硕士研究生,偶然遇到了一个素食者,我们聊到人类是怎样对待动物的,当时我的确不是很了解。
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