So, we start on C and then we go up to D-- a whole step.

我们从C开始,然后上升到D,一个全音级

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I personally don't like swings that much and it's the B-/B+ range, so I'd much rather prefer that to a swing from A to C, and that's my reason.

我不喜欢成绩波动很大的,比如B-/B+这个范围,所以我还是喜欢像A到C这样小点的,这就是我的原因

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