If we want to worry about when,if ever, is an abortion justified,it might be worth getting clear on, when do creatures like us start?

如果我们想要弄清楚，堕胎在什么时候是可以接受的，就要弄清楚，我们这样的生命是何时开始的？

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And a lot of people think that, you know, that qualifies as murder or abortion and they're opposed to that.

许多人认为，那样做的性质等于谋杀或者堕胎，所以他们反对。

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