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There's a real sense, I think, in which Milton wanted to re-create all of Western culture or to re-create all of Western culture in his own image.
我认为，米尔顿想要完全重建西方文化,或者说是按他自身的形象重建西方文化,是有切实意义的。
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They mimic in a real sense we do it.
它们模拟真实情况。
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And there's a real spatial sense here, that it's being generated at the base of the world, and it goes up and it transforms these mountains into papier-mache.
这里有一种真实的空间感，是从世界的基本中产生的，这种空间感上升并转化成这些纸型的山。
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But there's an important and, I think, a very real sense in which Milton wanted to make it seem as if the Nativity Ode were the first poem that he had written.
但我有种非常强烈的感觉,弥尔顿好像还是想让人觉得,《圣诞清晨歌》才是他的第一首诗。
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That's right. I feel like, correct me if I'm wrong here, it seems to me there is a particular opportunity for Muslims in America in a sense of, unlike say France, where there is a real like no head scarves in the school.
是的，我个人觉得，似乎对在美国的穆斯林而言,有一个特别的机遇，不像在法国那里学校里面都禁止佩戴头巾。
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They do, but they also have an allegiance to their families and to themselves, which, in Homer, tend to predominate,and yet there is a sense in which the conflict is very real.
确实是的,但是他们也忠于他们的家庭,以及他们自己,在荷马史诗中后二者占了主导地位,然而,在这之间的确有着真实的冲突
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There's also an important and, I think, a very real sense in which Milton wanted to make it seem and obviously this is a much more difficult feat wanted to make it seem as if the Nativity Ode were the first poem that anyone had written.
我还有一种强烈的感觉,弥尔顿想让人觉得,显然这很困难,想使《圣诞清晨歌》看上去像,任何一个人写的第一首诗。
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This becomes a very, very large issue because the notion that there should be a real connection between citizenship in the full sense and military performance is totally a Greek idea--I mean, the Greeks just totally accept that idea.
这是一个很大的问题,因为完全意义上的公民,和参与军事行动是相联系的,这个观念完全是希腊式的,我指的是,被希腊人广泛接受的观念
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For instance, in historical times when the Greeks referred to the great King of Persia, who was a real king and a powerful figure, a king in every sense, the word they used for him was Basileus.
比如说,在历史上,希腊人把伟大的波斯王,一个真正在各种领域,具有绝对权力的君主,称之为巴赛勒斯
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