Why do people become firemen, policemen, soldiers, freedom fighters, all activities that cannot be explained in terms of self-interest alone?

不可能只用拿工资的理由，就能完全解释为什么总有人愿意做,消防员，警察，军人和争取自由的斗士？

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And where will people come from that, if they all follow the psychology of fear and ? self-interest that Hobbes wants to instill in us?

如果都按霍布斯灌输给我们的那样想，时刻保持着恐惧和利己的心态,那又从哪招募那些消防员，警察和军人呢？

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