First of all, I found secretary Rumsfeld a very easy person to deal with in a sense that he's very professional, very strict, very honest, not the kind of guy who, you know, take a different position, try to around behind your back. If he's going to stab you, he's going to stab you in the chest.

首先，我发现拉姆斯菲尔德秘书长,是很容易打交道的人,我指的是他非常专业，非常严格，非常诚恳，不像那类人，因为观点立场不同,就从你背后放冷箭,如果他想杀了你，也是从正面进攻。

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And you friend says, "Well, you know I was kind of a nerd in high school. No one really liked me."

你的朋友说“呃，你知道，我在高中时是个书呆子。没什么人喜欢跟我打交道。”

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Now, unlike high school math or in algebra Z where you call things X and Y and Z, in programming, in computer science, you're actually dealing with humans where it's useful to have a variable name that's more descriptive than X and Y and Z.

不像高中数学或者代数中,称为X和Y和，在程序设计和计算机科学里，你实际上是在和人打交道,在这里有个描述性比xyz更强的,变量名称是很重要的。

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So I had a lot of experience with groups and working with different types of people

所以关于团队合作，与不同的人打交道这方面，我还是很有经验的。

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And it's very nice way for you to actually meet people.

这是个和人打交道的绝好方法。

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but generally we don't deal too much with them.

我们一般不会与这些人打交道。

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