And the whole publishing industry was very careful to keep those or some, were very careful to keep those separate and how they will be managed. That was called separation of churching state. But when we began publishing on the internet, we discovered a new kind of content which are called community content.

整个出版产业十分小心,地保持着它们或者其中一些，非常仔细地保持,它们是分开以及如何管理它们，那被,称为政教分离，但是当我们,开始在互联网上出版，我们发现一种,新内容，交错社区内容。

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It has to do with tapestries and carpets and things like that where you weave different strands in in different ways, and somewhere in my deep recesses I have these words "Wep" And "Warp" Or something like that.

它和挂毯和地毯之类的东西一样,你可以用不同的方式编织不同的线,在我内心深处,有这么一些词,交错,和,蜿蜒

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