I happen to be, and John teases me about this regularly, I'm an old-time Lisp programmer, and that's how I was trained.

我很偶然的，而且John也会常常拿这个来激怒我，我是一个怀旧的Lisp编程者，而那就是我怎么接受训练的。

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John Now, you're going to hear John and I go back and forth a lot, well I'm certainly old time, but I'm also an old time Lisp programmer.

现在，你会听到我和,来回的讲好多次，好吧我当然是个老学究，但是我也是一个老lisp程序员。

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