"Also,it's a way to prove that any other master-level athlete can achieve higher standards, even having a full-time job.

VOA: standard.2010.01.22

But some things seem to be indisputable, for instance, if I say we won the battle I can prove that to you most of the time.

但有些东西还是没有争议的,举个例子,我说我们赢得了战役,我可以证明这一点

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