He doesn't even give Homer the credit of being singular in having composed The Iliad. "They" -- who's "they"?

他甚至都没有给荷马创作《伊利亚特》中的非凡才能,以应有的名分，“他们“--谁是“他们“？

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I'm sorry. Homer describes certain of these weapons, which don't fit what we find in the ground.

抱歉,荷马所描述的那些武器,和考古发现的是不一致的

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It doesn't really-- well, let me just say what the polis claims to do here in Homer.

这并不算...,我还是说说在荷马时代,城邦是如何阐明法律的

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Whoever was writing the poems of Homer, whichever poets were contributing to that over the ages after the Mycenaean Period, they hadn't seen those Mycenaean sites.

不管是谁写的《荷马史诗》,无论那些诗人在迈锡尼文明之后,为该作品作出了多大贡献,他们都没见过迈锡尼文明遗址

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But we know that the Greeks in Homer don't do that.

但我们发现《荷马史诗》中的希腊人并不如此

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Off he went to the northeast Peloponnesus to the site where he thought it might be, Mycenae, from Homer's account-- I wouldn't be telling you this story, and you know the outcome.

因此他奔向伯罗奔尼撒半岛东北部,根据荷马的叙述,他认为迈锡尼城在那里,我想不用告诉你这个故事的结局,你们也能猜出来

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Of course, they won't be perfect, there's a mixed character of the world of Homer, but still, if you look at the world of Odysseus, his home, what's going on in Ithaca, there are some valuable clues.

当然,并不是完美的答案,荷马史诗里写了一些只言片语,如果你继续阅读《奥德赛》里面的故事,在他的家乡伊萨卡岛发生了什么,你会找到很多有用的线索

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