One who concerns himself with it more than the subject is an artist. But remember we are still talking merely of the raw material of poetry.

更多的考虑形式而不是内容的是,艺术家，但是记着我们还是谈论着,诗歌的原始形式。

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an interpreted language is often easier to debug, because you can still see your raw code there, but it's not always as fast.

解释语言调试起来很容易，因为你可以看到最原始的代码，但是这种语言不够快。

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