What is clear, says Claire de Gallembert, an expert on Islam at the Paris-based National Center for Scientific Research (CNRS) is that the debate is alienating France's five-million-member Muslim community.

VOA: standard.2010.01.30

And the problem is the same sort of dynamic plays itself out even in the scientific debate back and forth.

问题是，心理动力在科学辩论中,也是以相同的方式在进行循环辩证。

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