In order for a more or less round plate to remind me of roundness, Plato says, I have to have already met perfect roundness itself.

如果一个或多或少,有点圆的盘子能让我想到正圆,柏拉图认为,我必须已经见过完美的圆本身了

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I look at the plate on my kitchen table, it's not perfectly round, it's got imperfections; but suddenly I start thinking about circles, perfectly round objects.

我看着我餐桌上的盘子,它不是正圆的,它不完美,但是我马上就可以想到圆圈,正圆的东西

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