It's not the whole story though. Let me turn to the question of the physical picture that you ought to have of a polis.

但还有别的原因,让我们看一下,城邦所处的自然环境,你们心里应该有个大致的画面

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We don't know how the change came about or if--some people question if they ever really did have kings, but the picture I want you to have is that's not the tradition.

我们不知道这个变化是怎么发生的,如果...有人质疑如果他们真的有过国王,不过这里我想告诉你们的是,他们没有这样的传统

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