My heart goes out to anyone who loses a friend over an argument.
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They're trying to lay out an argument which is consistent and continuous and keep surprise to a minimum.
他们试图自然地建立起一个论点,使之一致,使我们的诧异最小化。
But still, let me quickly point out why you could resist the argument from free will to the existence of a soul.
但我还是要简短地指出,为什么你们会拒不认同,从自由意志的角度来论证灵魂的存在
In a way, he uses the same kind of argument, and this comes out in chapter five.
某种意义上,他用了同一论据,它出现在第五章。
But one argument that can be made is that things things were so terrible and so out of control in the earlier period that the strengthening of the state is something that people saw as beneficial.
然而有这样一个观点,在动荡不定的战争年代,一个极权国家是有利于国家的发展的
As a further argument, if in fact everyone thought that way, and if you figured out everyone was going to think that way, then you would expect everyone to choose a number like 33 and in that case you should choose a number like 22.
继续分析,如果每个人都这么想,而且你明白大家都会这么想的话,那你会预计每个人都会选择33,而这种情况下你应该选择22
s not the burden of your argument that markets work only flawlessly if the government were get out of the way.
所以就算你没说,Ok,so,it’,市场只能在,政府不干预的情况下运转良好。
If the answer turns out to be no, it's going to take some sustained argument to settle it one way or the other.
如果答案是否定的,它将需要更有力的论据,去证明出个所以然
So what I'm inclined to think with regard to this particular strand or this particular version of the argument is, the jury's still out.
所以我倾向于,认为,对于这个特殊的困境,或说成是,对这个特定版本的,论证,还无法下定论
So if we were to spell out the argument somewhat more fully, it might be, "We have free will, but you can't both have free will and be subject to determinism or subject to deterministic laws."
因此我们要更完整地阐述这个论证的话,它应该是,人有自由意志,但人不能既有自由意志,又遵从决定论 或服从确定性的定律
Now, out of all of this, again to repeat, we are not making the argument that the Thirty Years' War itself led to absolute rule, that the growth of state structures can be seen in the beginning and the late medieval period with the consolidation of these territorial monarchies.
综上所述,我再重复一遍,我们并不能推断说,三十年战争本身导致了绝对主义的发展,国家的构建在中世纪的早期,以及晚期的领土兼并中就已经初见端倪
Remember the argument from recycling says when you build something, you build it out of parts.
源于轮回的论证是说,你建造某种东西的时候,你通过许多的部分建造。
While I'm busy pointing out ways in which the argument doesn't succeed, I also want to just take a moment and mention that premise two is also subject to criticism.
当我竭力指出,为什么这种论证无法成功时,我也想要花点时间,顺便说说前提二也不能免于批评
Now, if we push the dualist to explain what is it about free will that rules out the possibility that we are merely physical objects, I think the natural suggestion to spell out the argument goes like this, and this is where we were at the end of last time.
现在如果我们让二元论者去解释,什么是自由意志,它又是如何否定,人仅仅是物理实体这种可能性的,我认为他们自然会这样,阐述这个论证,这是就我们在上节课结束时讲到的内容
That doesn't prove that the argument fails, but it does mean that you're going to have your work cut out for you if you're going to use this route to arguing for the existence of a soul.
但这并不表明这个论证就不成立,而它确实意味着,如果你要用这种途径,来证明灵魂存在的话,你需要有人帮你解答疑团
If we could find the right F, and make out the argument, the physicalist can't explain it or does a bad job of explaining it and the dualist does a better job of explaining it, we'd have reason to believe in the soul.
如果我们能找到合适的特性F,并且给出论证,物理主义者无法解释,或者解释得很牵强,而二元论的解释更合理,那么我们就有理由相信有灵魂存在
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