suppose we make for, the moment, the bold conjecture, the philosophical claim, that not only is pleasure and the absence of pain, not only is pleasure one good thing and pain one bad thing.

假设此刻我们做出大胆猜测，哲学声称，不仅只,快乐和没有痛苦，快乐不止是一样好的东西，痛苦不止是一样坏的东西。

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And it's at this point, and I think it's, importantly, not before this point, that Milton's able to throw himself fully into that eroticized conjecture, that catalog of all the flowers that was to be thrown onto the hearse bearing Lycidas' body that we looked at last time.

此时，我认为，弥尔顿能够让他自己完全,投入那种情色的推测中去，投入到那种所有的花儿，都被投入到我们最后见到的,的骸骨中去，是非常重要的。

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