So, that's the first point: It's material. The second point is that narrative has a form, and that it can be constructed, built.

这就是我第一个观点：它是物质的，第二个理由是,叙述故事有一个框架，它可以像一个手工品一样。

耶鲁公开课 - 1945年后的美国小说课程节选

Black Boy We started this course talking about Black Boy - and the way that a whole world of pressure-- pushed on the borders of that work and actually changed its very material form.

在开始这门课的时候我们先讨论了,说了这个充满政治压力的种族矛盾激化的世界-,并且已经改变了,它的实体范畴的。

耶鲁公开课 - 1945年后的美国小说课程节选

It breaks down into its component parts and I show two of those component parts here, one is the genetic material, in this case DNA, and the other is all the proteins that form the structure of the virus.

分解为自身各种零件,这里给你们展示一下其中的两个,其一是遗传物质,这里指DNA,另一个是构建病毒结构的所有蛋白质

耶鲁公开课 - 生物医学工程探索课程节选

Now, let me just make the last point I want to make about this, and that's that because language is material, it has form, it has both closedness and possibility, it's susceptible to the workings of craft, it's also unpredictable. Tosses mobius strip on floor.

让我说关于此事的最后一个观点吧，正因为语言是物质的，它有固定模式，它没有尽头又充满可能，它易受,工艺品的影响，它同时也是不可预知的。

耶鲁公开课 - 1945年后的美国小说课程节选